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[交易商] 瑞富门事件(REFCO)4亿3000万美圆财务丑闻

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發表於 2006-2-26 20:10:59 | 顯示全部樓層

Re: 为什么要隐藏阿,好多人都在关心这件事呢

[quote="OaimZh"]为什么要隐藏阿,好多人都在关心这件事呢[/quote]

这个做法是只对帐户拥有者有利,对REFCO不利的

现在号称拯救交易者帐户资金是FXCM低价打包买会35%REFCO控股权利的唯一噱头,如果大家的资金都成功逃出REFCOFX深渊,FXCM会爽吗?
REFCOFX同FXCM是一条线上的虫子。

为了防止REFCO/FXCM的走狗通风报信,造成本策略失效, 所以只让我们这里的弟兄姐妹使用。

因此,我坚决反对公开这个策略。 :!:

而象你这样
“加入时间: 2004/10/30
文章: 2”

即使不是马甲,也只是对本论坛没有任何热情的过客,只想收获,不知道贡献给大家,好象没这个道理吧。
發表於 2006-2-27 09:44:58 | 顯示全部樓層
偶可能已经猜到了这种方法,这种方法应该是借鉴了期货交易中的一种手法,构思巧妙,令人击节赞叹,这种方法耗费的时间应该每次都不会一样,不过对偶已经没什么用处了,因为偶入的是RCM,faint!
 樓主| 發表於 2006-2-27 17:22:39 | 顯示全部樓層
RCM  许强 “老师” 的REFCO108 :)
呵呵,可以成REFCO的股东了。
我在想是否要收购这些权利:)然后找我纽约的律师朋友玩玩REFCO的股东。 大家报个价格。
發表於 2006-2-27 18:18:17 | 顯示全部樓層
最近几天http://www.refcofx.com/已无法连接,交易平台也不能登陆。不单如此http://www.fxcm.com/和http://www.fxcmasia.com/也连不上。
不知到只有我这样,还是所有人都这样。希望老大们帮忙了解一下。
 樓主| 發表於 2006-2-27 18:32:12 | 顯示全部樓層
[quote:3c16383691="bsw"]最近几天http://www.refcofx.com/已无法连接,交易平台也不能登陆。不单如此http://www.fxcm.com/和http://www.fxcmasia.com/也连不上。
不知到只有我这样,还是所有人都这样。希望老大们帮忙了解一下。[/quote]

都可以正常打开。
發表於 2006-3-1 20:08:25 | 顯示全部樓層
[quote:c92333c1fe="twotwo"]偶可能已经猜到了这种方法,这种方法应该是借鉴了期货交易中的一种手法,构思巧妙,令人击节赞叹,这种方法耗费的时间应该每次都不会一样,不过对偶已经没什么用处了,因为偶入的是RCM,faint![/quote]

这个兄弟比较有灵气,可惜没早来咱们这里。
發表於 2006-3-2 18:26:50 | 顯示全部樓層
發表於 2006-3-2 18:32:44 | 顯示全部樓層
注意,这是REFCO香港,不是美国。
發表於 2006-3-2 20:49:02 | 顯示全部樓層
请问,REFCO提款单在哪里下载啊?
發表於 2006-3-2 22:09:17 | 顯示全部樓層
我晕。你还没有按照TOM的方法把钱救走?
REFCO无法提款,上面这个是REFCO 香港公司的告示
發表於 2006-3-2 23:53:40 | 顯示全部樓層
tom的方法我看不到啊,也看不明白,可以举个示范吗?
發表於 2006-3-3 00:09:10 | 顯示全部樓層
[quote:ee7586c3b9="tonylsf"]tom的方法我看不到啊,也看不明白,可以举个示范吗?[/quote]兄弟有什么问题直接在我那个帖子回帖,不要在这里谈。谢谢。
發表於 2006-3-4 14:41:42 | 顯示全部樓層
TOM的方法我看不到,老大能否给我发一份。
發表於 2006-3-4 14:50:01 | 顯示全部樓層

Re: 为什么要隐藏阿,好多人都在关心这件事呢

[quote="tom"][quote:6ea4c06a6c="OaimZh"]为什么要隐藏阿,好多人都在关心这件事呢[/quote]

这个做法是只对帐户拥有者有利,对REFCO不利的

现在号称拯救交易者帐户资金是FXCM低价打包买会35%REFCO控股权利的唯一噱头,如果大家的资金都成功逃出REFCOFX深渊,FXCM会爽吗?
REFCOFX同FXCM是一条线上的虫子。

为了防止REFCO/FXCM的走狗通风报信,造成本策略失效, 所以只让我们这里的弟兄姐妹使用。

因此,我坚决反对公开这个策略。 :!:

而象你这样
“加入时间: 2004/10/30
文章: 2”

即使不是马甲,也只是对本论坛没有任何热情的过客,只想收获,不知道贡献给大家,好象没这个道理吧。[/quote]


同感 坚决反对公开这个策略。

至少等我们TONY小兄弟跑出来再说。
發表於 2006-3-9 14:42:39 | 顯示全部樓層

Important Notice To RefcoFX Clients

Important Notice To RefcoFX Clients

Dear RefcoFX Client,

We write to advise you of our progress on our sale efforts. RefcoF/X did not receive any offers for the sale of its retail foreign exchange assets other than the original offer by Forex Capital Markets LLC (FXCM). Under the Bankruptcy Court’s bidding procedures order, therefore, the auction relating to the RefcoF/X assets scehduled for February 16, 2006, was not held. In addition, the sale hearing scheduled for February 17, 2006 was adjourned until March 10, 2006 to give the parties additional time to work out details related to the hearing on the sale of the Refco FX assets.

We appreciate your continued support during this process. Refco has set up a toll-free information line (866-327-0774) to answer additional questions or you may e-mail Meagan_Repko@sitrick.com. We will continue to update you as more information becomes available.

Best Regards,

Refco F/X Associates LLC
發表於 2006-3-9 17:53:05 | 顯示全部樓層
直接转移款项就好了。关心这个事情整个是浪费时间
發表於 2006-3-10 19:09:16 | 顯示全部樓層
请问sunzhee朋友发的文章的大体内容是讲什么的?谢谢!!!
發表於 2006-3-11 13:53:44 | 顯示全部樓層
我如何才能看到那篇策略啊,谢谢
發表於 2006-3-11 14:40:24 | 顯示全部樓層

Re: Important Notice To RefcoFX Clients

[quote:1d16a94c9d="sunzhee"]Important Notice To RefcoFX Clients

Dear RefcoFX Client,

We write to advise you of our progress on our sale efforts. RefcoF/X did not receive any offers for the sale of its retail foreign exchange assets other than the original offer by Forex Capital Markets LLC (FXCM). Under the Bankruptcy Court’s bidding procedures order, therefore, the auction relating to the RefcoF/X assets scehduled for February 16, 2006, was not held. In addition, the sale hearing scheduled for February 17, 2006 was adjourned until March 10, 2006 to give the parties additional time to work out details related to the hearing on the sale of the Refco FX assets.

We appreciate your continued support during this process. Refco has set up a toll-free information line (866-327-0774) to answer additional questions or you may e-mail Meagan_Repko@sitrick.com. We will continue to update you as more information becomes available.

Best Regards,

Refco F/X Associates LLC[/quote]
上面这个还是老新闻,以后光贴英文的不如不贴。整个浪费不通英文的朋友的时间。




下面这个是最新的,关键内容是  有关REFCOFX出售的听证会已经被设订到4/11。

(这是我的话---- 请兄弟们别犹豫了,能跑的赶快按照我说的方法跑了吧。至今没跑的,说实在话,你们的心理素质+逻辑分析能力实在是有严重问题。

New court date set for sale of Refco forex assets
NEW YORK, March 8 (Reuters) - A new hearing in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the sale of the foreign exchange assets of Refco Inc. , the bankrupt futures and commodities brokerage, has been set for April 11, a spokesman for Refco said on Wednesday.
Refco said on Feb. 15 it canceled the auction for the forex assets because it had not received any bids other than an original offer of $110 million by Forex Capital Markets LLC (FXCM).

The creditors' committee in the Refco case and the agent for Refco's bank lenders objected to approval of the sale of the forex assets to FXCM and requested more time.

The Refco spokesman said on Wednesday that negotiations with FXCM were ongoing. FXCM was not available for comment.

Refco's forex assets comprise a 35 percent stake in FXCM, a retail foreign exchange brokerage, and about 17,000 retail client accounts.



[quote:1d16a94c9d="joy011"]我如何才能看到那篇策略啊,谢谢[/quote]

加入时间: 2004/12/29
文章: 1


再潜水1年,获得潜水大奖以后就可以看了。  :
發表於 2006-3-14 23:50:27 | 顯示全部樓層

我也是refcofx的,我是不是快死了?

[quote:5149e62fc3="tom"][/quote]

不是你提醒, 我还在一天一天的等.
大虾, 请赐给我方法, 不然我梦破灭, 只有死路一条了
發表於 2006-3-15 19:28:02 | 顯示全部樓層

如何转走我refcofx帐户内的款项

[quote="chf"]直接转移款项就好了。关心这个事情整个是浪费时间[/quote]

哪位高手可以指点一下如何转走我refcofx帐户内的款项? 我从表面上去年十月等啊等, 请各位高人支招.
發表於 2006-3-15 20:18:42 | 顯示全部樓層
refcofx收购现在也有问题啊
發表於 2006-3-16 08:34:39 | 顯示全部樓層
好像没有办法辨别其他公司是否存在类似风险
發表於 2006-3-16 11:12:02 | 顯示全部樓層
怎么才能看tom写的从refcofx想法转移资金的帖子,我看不了,权限不够。
發表於 2006-3-18 13:43:38 | 顯示全部樓層
Joined: 07 Dec 2003
Posts: 5


先付出后收获

再潜水1年,获得潜水大奖以后就可以看了。
發表於 2006-3-21 10:49:49 | 顯示全部樓層
FXCM放弃收购Refco FX了。

原文链接:1
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發表於 2006-3-21 14:00:29 | 顯示全部樓層
不是说除了FXCM没有其他的公司对出价有兴趣吗?
發表於 2006-3-21 15:42:12 | 顯示全部樓層
[quote:77d912e380="0366"]不是说除了FXCM没有其他的公司对出价有兴趣吗?[/quote]

那是说相对 REFCOFX的资产。

问题是可以剥离REFCOFX的不确定资产(这FXCM最了解,呵呵)

然后单独拍卖REFCO在FXCM的股权呀。
Refco currency unit talks collapse; examiner named
Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:04 PM ET
      

By Jonathan Stempel

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Refco Inc.'s (RFXCQ.PK: Quote, Profile, Research) bankruptcy reorganization suffered a setback on Monday when Forex Capital Markets LLC abandoned talks to buy the company's unregulated currency trading unit.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Department of Justice appointed Joshua Hochberg, the former head of its fraud unit, to investigate claims of fraud and other misconduct that may have led to Refco's Chapter 11 filing in Manhattan.

Refco filed for court protection on October 17, amid an exodus of customers following the disclosure that former Chief Executive Phillip Bennett hid $430 million of bad debt.

The futures and commodities broker has been selling assets to pay creditors, to whom it has said it owes $16.8 billion.

Forex Capital had been the only bidder for the currency unit, Refco FX Associates LLC, and agreed to buy it for $110 million. The unit has about 17,000 retail client accounts.

After a committee for unsecured Refco creditors complained that the original price was too low, Forex Capital said it raised its offer to $130 million. The creditors and Refco, nevertheless, remain "unresponsive," it said.

"We knew the creditors were unhappy with our bid, but every time we raised it, they would not give us a firm counteroffer with a real price attached to it," said Drew Niv, Forex Capital's chief executive, in an interview.

"If enough pressure were brought to bear, this deal can be resurrected," Niv continued.

Calls to Refco and a lawyer for the creditors committee were not immediately returned. Earlier this month, Refco set April 11 for a new auction of its foreign exchange assets.

Last November, Refco sold its regulated U.S. commodity futures business to a unit of Britain's Man Group Plc (EMG.L: Quote, Profile, Research).

NEW EXAMINER

The appointment of Hochberg, a partner at McKenna Long & Aldridge LLP in Washington, D.C., was announced less than two weeks after U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Robert Drain authorized the appointment of an independent examiner for Refco.

Hochberg, a white-collar crime specialist, helped lead the Justice Department's response to accounting scandals following the 2001 collapse of Enron Corp.

The U.S. Trustee disclosed the appointment of Hochberg in a Friday court filing. Hochberg was traveling on Monday and could not immediately be reached for comment.

Drain's ruling had disappointed creditors, who said naming an examiner would increase Refco's reorganization costs, leaving less money for them. The judge had earlier rejected the government's bid to appoint a trustee to run Refco's business.

An examiner has fewer powers than a trustee. U.S. bankruptcy law allows an examiner to investigate a debtor's alleged misconduct when it is in creditors' interest, or when the debtor owes more than $5 million.

Bennett has pleaded innocent to eight counts of conspiracy, fraud and other charges.

Drain on Friday gave final approval for Refco's hiring of Goldin Associates LLC as its crisis manager. The firm is led by former New York City comptroller Harrison Goldin.

FXCM最高出价1亿3千万,还是不被接受。

REFCOFX的客人可以直接按照TOM的做法跑人。

就是说REFCOFX本身的价值是很空泛的,甚至是负的。

关键是FXCM的35%股份价值多少。

但是这个事情拖延下去,REFCOFX的客户也会找FXCM的麻烦,很明显REFCOFX / FXCM在美国的办公都是很难让人区分的。
發表於 2006-3-21 17:28:00 | 顯示全部樓層
FXCM可能根本就是个托儿。

演双簧钓大鱼呢。结果没有笨鱼上钩儿。
 樓主| 發表於 2006-3-21 20:29:09 | 顯示全部樓層
[quote:852c16deab="gecko"]FXCM可能根本就是个托儿。

演双簧钓大鱼呢。结果没有笨鱼上钩儿。[/quote]

呵呵,我还真没意识到这种可能性呢,很有价值:)
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